Stray Kids

This video popped out on my timeline and reminded me that I wanted to say - many of stray kids members are showing big alarms of trouble and danger hidden behind fake "acting cute" theatrics.
This guy has been giving me unpleasant feelings whenever I see something of him - looking at himself in a weird way wearing SM outfits half naked, giving pervert vibes and being drunk at the VMA


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they are all doing it, it's jewish sick propaganda to put out gender dysphoric propaganda and destroy women, making them in the end slaves meant to bear children for the gay pedophiles.

That "designer" guy was fumbling him, all over his body, I posted the video previously.

They can pick girls models, for girls clothes. not men. It's an intentional mind-stroying-propaganda to put on every cover and all over the media men looking like women.
Yeah even before you started to post about stray kids I saw pics where I thought Ghesquière seemed creepy around Felix.

I would really differentiate Judaism and Zionism. There are many currents in Judaism, I don’t know if you heard of Neturei Karta for example, who are Jewish anti-Zionist and get beaten up by the israeli police for their stance. Also many Jews are leaving Israel because of the genocide and demonstrating against the on-going genocide while the most radical ones are ok with it and moving there. So the ones who sow evil and perversion are pervert evil people but there are also many decent ones.
 
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Yeah even before you started to post about stray kids I saw pics where I thought Ghesquière seemed creepy around Felix.

I would really differentiate Judaism and Zionism. There are many currents in Judaism, I don’t know if you heard of Neturei Karta for example, who are Jewish anti-Zionist and get beaten up by the israeli police for their stance. Also many Jews are leaving Israel because of the genocide and demonstrating against the on-going genocide while the most radical ones are ok with it and moving there. So the ones who sow evil and perversion are pervert evil people but there are also many decent ones.
The evil of the jewish people started long before a name was given for a certain movement.
I don't consider all jewish people bad, and I am not outthere saying all jewish people should be killed. The world is under jewish control, they are responsible for the worst evil possible, they worship satan (david's star) and live in a cult where everything else doesn't deserve to live.
All the conglomerates, banks, health industry, land, etc is owned by the jews and the fact that there are some nice jewish people doesn't change the problem.

I am also not outthere saying kill all Muslims, just because Europe is threatened daily by Islamists.

Very nice for the jewish people standing against the evil caused by other jewish people. We all must stand up against the evil. Not just the nice jewish man.
 
The evil of the jewish people started long before a name was given for a certain movement.
I don't consider all jewish people bad, and I am not outthere saying all jewish people should be killed. The world is under jewish control, they are responsible for the worst evil possible, they worship satan (david's star) and live in a cult where everything else doesn't deserve to live.
All the conglomerates, banks, health industry, land, etc is owned by the jews and the fact that there are some nice jewish people doesn't change the problem.

I am also not outthere saying kill all Muslims, just because Europe is threatened daily by Islamists.

Very nice for the jewish people standing against the evil caused by other jewish people. We all must stand up against the evil. Not just the nice jewish man.
I've been reading about these topics for many years. I know it's been going on for so long; one of the books I read about the history of zionism starts around 500 years before Jesus Christ. I'm happy to recommend sources that helped me understand better both zionism, and its link with the current currency system with the supremacy of the dollar, (which is starting to decline), which is KEY. etc... But I doubt this place is the right place to do that.
About their worship of Satan, the Bible does mention the "Synagogue of Satan", but for David's star (or the Seal of Salomon), there is a lot to say about its symbolism, and it's actually not negative in the first place. I can only recommend René Guénon's work for that.

I agree with you, we must all stand up against the evil, (well at least all the people who try to fight it). By the way, those migration waves of africans to Europe, who (among other people) finance them? Soros. Some africans even change their minds on the way to Europe or get scared to die at sea and try to go back to their home country but they get beaten up and are forced to continue by their handlers, the ones who organize their passage. Why? To create more chaos in Europe. And why do they try to leave in the first place? Why are their countries so poor despite all their natural resources? Because they are maintained in an artificial state of poverty with the very unfair currency system in place, of course with the complicity of a few locals (who happen to be, often, free masons). To the benefit of the West. Also, for many of the "islamists"groups: who funds them? who creates them? Most of the times to create enemies to Arab leaders who are not compliant enough with the US or with Israel.

The reason I'm trying not to be too hard on the "idols" (by the way, I put quotes because the initial meaning of the word idol is a statue, a false deity - well false for people who were from the monotheistic religions, which led people astray from the right path, and sometimes I think that Kpop idols get really close to that). So the reason I'm trying not be too hard on the 'idols' is because when they start, they are 15-17 years old, sometimes even younger. Surely at that age they are not aware of all the evil forces at work in the world and how that also plays in the entertainment industry. I don't think they get that they will be instrumentalized. And if they ever do, I'm sure maybe some will be in denial or minimize the negative side of what they are doing. I'm not trying to find excuses for them, I'm really just analyzing this from outside.
For example, Hyunjin was cast for his looks when he was in a supermarket with his mom, and he first thought that JYP was a scam when the person handed him his (or her) name card. And then he probably saw a career opportunity for him and decided to go with it. As he puts more efforts and time into it, it's hard for him to step out of it and to try to analyze what he's doing I think. I don't think he thinks: "I'm going to make a bunch of girls fall in love with me so that they can give my company their (pocket) money". He actually SEEMS like a kind sensitive artistic person.
And Felix was also approached by the company I think when he was 15, but his parents (to their credit) said NO. They had to wait a couple of years, and even then I think that his father was really against it (he mentioned that in a couple of videos and got emotional about it if I remember correctly). He had a boyish charm when he started, and now with this voice, and his demeanor, I don't think he's unisex, I think he's manly. But then that's probably his contract with LV. I don't think he's saying to himself: "I am going to advance the evil agenda of the perverts who want to destroy the traditional model of the family unit, and want to confuse people about their gender". That's what I meant by "used by the system". He also SEEMS kind and generous (but he does seem a bit harder to read than the others for me). (I put capital on SEEMS because we never know of course. This is just what they project. And even for people close to us in real life, we actually never know.)
And it's all the more sly and sneaky since they (the real evil people) use good-looking people, young people (so they are most likely ignorant of these things), people who seem genuinely kind (because those are going to be the most likable and influential, so for their model, those are the most important to influence a lot of other impressionable young people) to try to advance their sick perverted agenda. But I don't think the idols are the "mentally ill", or the evil ones. (Well obviously the rapists and the pervert ones who cross certain lines are). As I wrote previously, I think that some might be cynical, but most are probably just in denial or even completely unaware of their role in what's going on. I mean it takes time and long readings to become aware of all of this, and then one must connect all the dots; and, then, assuming they do become aware of it (but I don't think they do), it takes a special kind of people to try to get away from it when they'd already spent so much time on their careers, and they know that these are short careers.

On a side note while Felix and Hyunjin seem to be the 2 most important people to draw people in, in their fandom, I am wondering to what extent it is actually reflected in their compensation. Specially with their "3-racha" unit (Bang Chan, Han, and Changbin) who apparently write, compose and produce, so they are probably getting a lot more money than the others, which wouldn't be fair because Felix and Hyunjin seem to be the 2 more important given the nature of this business.

Whether the idols are in denial or not, the evil is advancing and it's great that you and so many people are calling it out to try to make as many people as possible open their eyes. But I think that to fight the evil, it's better to expose the system that generates it, instead of personally attacking people who seem to be used by it.
I would say for Kpop, thanks to sites like this one, I hope that as many people (mostly the girls that develop obsessive feelings) as possible open their eyes so that they don't get tricked by their feelings and spend too much time and money on Kpop. Some even neglect their studies or ruin their future for that. That's not right. Idols have these so called bans on dating but they date. Which is natural, they are young, good-looking (well to each their own) and because of their work, they're constantly meeting and interacting with people from the opposite sex who are in the same age group and in the same "league". They are bound to date or even fall in love. People do. That's normal. What's not normal is hiding it or lying about it so that they can keep on selling this illusion to people and take their time and their cash. And then they try to make the fans feel guilty by saying "oh it's ridiculous let them date". Yes, by all means, let them. But let also people know. Don't lie. It WILL help at least some of the fans snap back into reality and maybe focus on themselves and on their lives, instead of wasting time and energy mostly because of an illusion. Maybe the obsessive fans can get back in the real world and try to meet real people and start building a real relationship. At the end of the day, it should be just light entertainment, (and it's great that there are some people who take it lightly) but a lot of people don't, because it is built to make it obsessive, which is not right.

As far as I'm concerned, I was never into Kpop. I first saw Jungkook in the World Cup opening ceremony a couple of years ago. And as I was checking some media content about the World Cup being held in Qatar (for other aspects of the events), I kept on getting suggestions of videos about him and I was so surprised by certain fan comments that I decided to look into it. It has been more an object or topic of analysis. I think I'm done with it now :)
But I wish well to all the people who see something wrong and call it out.
 
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I've been reading about these topics for many years. I know it's been going on for so long; one of the books I read about the history of zionism starts around 500 years before Jesus Christ. I'm happy to recommend sources that helped me understand better both zionism, and its link with the current currency system with the supremacy of the dollar, (which is starting to decline), which is KEY. etc... But I doubt this place is the right place to do that.
About their worship of Satan, the Bible does mention the "Synagogue of Satan", but for David's star (or the Seal of Salomon), there is a lot to say about its symbolism, and it's actually not negative in the first place. I can only recommend René Guénon's work for that.

I agree with you, we must all stand up against the evil, (well at least all the people who try to fight it). By the way, those migration waves of africans to Europe, who (among other people) finance them? Soros. Some africans even change their minds on the way to Europe or get scared to die at sea and try to go back to their home country but they get beaten up and are forced to continue by their handlers, the ones who organize their passage. Why? To create more chaos in Europe. And why do they try to leave in the first place? Why are their countries so poor despite all their natural resources? Because they are maintained in an artificial state of poverty with the very unfair currency system in place, of course with the complicity of a few locals (who happen to be, often, free masons). To the benefit of the West. Also, for many of the "islamists"groups: who funds them? who creates them? Most of the times to create enemies to Arab leaders who are not compliant enough with the US or with Israel.

The reason I'm trying not to be too hard on the "idols" (by the way, I put quotes because the initial meaning of the word idol is a statue, a false deity - well false for people who were from the monotheistic religions, which led people astray from the right path, and sometimes I think that Kpop idols get really close to that). So the reason I'm trying not be too hard on the 'idols' is because when they start, they are 15-17 years old, sometimes even younger. Surely at that age they are not aware of all the evil forces at work in the world and how that also plays in the entertainment industry. I don't think they get that they will be instrumentalized. And if they ever do, I'm sure maybe some will be in denial or minimize the negative side of what they are doing. I'm not trying to find excuses for them, I'm really just analyzing this from outside.
For example, Hyunjin was cast for his looks when he was in a supermarket with his mom, and he first thought that JYP was a scam when the person handed him his (or her) name card. And then he probably saw a career opportunity for him and decided to go with it. As he puts more efforts and time into it, it's hard for him to step out of it and to try to analyze what he's doing I think. I don't think he thinks: "I'm going to make a bunch of girls fall in love with me so that they can give my company their (pocket) money". He actually SEEMS like a kind sensitive artistic person.
And Felix was also approached by the company I think when he was 15, but his parents (to their credit) said NO. They had to wait a couple of years, and even then I think that his father was really against it (he mentioned that in a couple of videos and got emotional about it if I remember correctly). He had a boyish charm when he started, and now with this voice, and his demeanor, I don't think he's unisex, I think he's manly. But then that's probably his contract with LV. I don't think he's saying to himself: "I am going to advance the evil agenda of the perverts who want to destroy the traditional model of the family unit, and want to confuse people about their gender". That's what I meant by "used by the system". He also SEEMS kind and generous (but he does seem a bit harder to read than the others for me). (I put capital on SEEMS because we never know of course. This is just what they project. And even for people close to us in real life, we actually never know.)
And it's all the more sly and sneaky since they (the real evil people) use good-looking people, young people (so they are most likely ignorant of these things), people who seem genuinely kind (because those are going to be the most likable and influential, so for their model, those are the most important to influence a lot of other impressionable young people) to try to advance their sick perverted agenda. But I don't think the idols are the "mentally ill", or the evil ones. (Well obviously the rapists and the pervert ones who cross certain lines are). As I wrote previously, I think that some might be cynical, but most are probably just in denial or even completely unaware of their role in what's going on. I mean it takes time and long readings to become aware of all of this, and then one must connect all the dots; and, then, assuming they do become aware of it (but I don't think they do), it takes a special kind of people to try to get away from it when they already spend so much time on their careers, and they know that these are short careers.

On a side note while Felix and Hyunjin seem to be the 2 most important people to draw people in, in their fandom, I am wondering to what extent it is actually reflected in their compensation. Specially with their "3-racha" unit (Bang Chan, Han, and Changbin) who apparently write, compose and produce, so they are probably getting a lot more money than the others, which wouldn't be fair because Felix and Hyunjin seem to be the 2 more important given the nature of this business.

Whether the idols are in denial or not, the evil is advancing and it's great that you and so many people are calling it out to try to make as many people as possible open their eyes. But I think that to fight the evil, it's better to expose the system that generates it, instead of personally attacking people who seem to be used by it.
I would say for Kpop, thanks to sites like this one, I hope that as many people (mostly the girls that develop obsessive feelings) as possible open their eyes so that they don't get tricked by their feelings and spend too much time and money on Kpop. Some even neglect their studies or ruin their future for that. That's not right. Idols have these so called bans on dating but they date. Which is natural, they are young, good-looking (well to each their own) and because of their work, they're constantly meeting and interacting with people from the opposite sex who are in the same age group and in the same "league". They are bound to date or even fall in love. People do. That's normal. What's not normal is hiding it or lying about it so that they can keep on selling this illusion to people and take their time and their cash. And then they try to make the fans feel guilty by saying "oh it's ridiculous let them date". Yes, by all means, let them. But let also people know. Don't lie. It WILL help at least some of the fans snap back into reality and maybe focus on themselves and on their lives, instead of wasting time and energy mostly because of an illusion. Maybe the obsessive fans can get back in the real world and try to meet real people and start building a real relationship. At the end of the day, it should be just light entertainment, (and it's great that there are some people who take it lightly) but a lot of people don't, because it is built it to make it obsessive, which is not right.

As far as I'm concerned, I was never into Kpop. I first saw Jungkook in the World Cup opening ceremony a couple of years ago. And as I was checking some media content about the World Cup being held in Qatar (for other aspects of the events), I kept on getting suggestions of videos about him and I was so surprised by certain fan comments that I decided to look into it. It has been more an object or topic of analysis. I think I'm done with it now :)
But I wish well to all the people who see something wrong and call it out.


This is a "jews" thread


this is a "cult" themed thread



you can always post there the material you were referring to, and/or create your own thread. I am not the admin/owner of the forum. Everyone is free to do whatever they want.
I encourage people to post and write.

in response to some of the things you wrote:

- I doubt that felix or hyunjin are getting paid more. In fact...I think it is the opposite. I believe the ones being compensated, both in SKZ and BTS, are the ones without the "looks", that realize the real boss money long term comes from providing material for the company in terms of writing and availability.

People like Hyunjin, Felix, Taehyung and now Jungkook are like...christmas. You could eat all year long the specific treats and foods, but it takes the charm away. Which is why they aren't offered in the store all year round. The Christmas example isn't my idea, so ...can't take credit for it, I thought it was a nice thing when I first read about it in a post not related to anything kpop.
The company cannot play this obsessive parasocial madness-card continuously with them. It's not going to work, it is time-limited. They can't allow them to go solo full power, because there is less money and if you've read Hyunjin's interview...though....like every other "interview" with those people, there is a team already providing the answers....he mentioned the same things, in the same way as Jungkook and Taehyung...hinting at solo wishes, keeping the fans alert regarding possible solo album, saying that he has a long list of songs he wrote...
yet they never get the chance to do it. Full power.
The company only has to gain, if they play the "Christmas" card. Every now and then, never too much. For example they published the entire SKZ tour DVD one day after Hyunjin's Cartier commercial came out.
They have people in every group, who are there only because it means an extra cash flow for the company. People who are simply useless for the entire group.

- I blame in the first place the parents. At 15 of course, unless you've been with the "hood" since 10, you don't see evil in anything. As a parent, you don't give away your child and take the cash. Like there is a lottery.
Good for Felix's parents. On the other side - Felix is now old enough to have his own mind, and not play the gender dysphoria agenda. Either way, I noticed that Felix is well spoken, articulated and stands out. With the others, you can see that they haven't been to school and that's a huge problem. They have underdeveloped brains, they don't know what it is to learn for school and run away from work.

Yes, I also had the same impression about Hyunjin being a kind and sensitive person. That's how Jungkook also seemed, until he developed verrry fast into something weird and almost...almost disgusting.
You mentioned that you discovered him when he performed at the world cup. I found out about BTS around 2019 (always forget the timeline) and back then it was just shortly before he started going down.
If you look at older videos, Jungkook left me the same impression as Hyunjin, though there is no comparison between them in terms of dancing.

Doing something is always better than...nothing...Unfortunately what people like Jungkook, Taehyung and Hyunjin don't seem to understand, is that there is no "friendship" between anybody. They should stop lying about their private life and be more concerned about being with a decent person together.
The amount of jealousy that Namjoon tried to hide, towards Taehyung, was annoying. Taehyung lives in his own madness, looking in the crow for people to "love" him. He was obsessing over Namjoon and the more he was wooing him, the worse Namjoon became.

Han, Bangchan, etc...aren't Hyunjin's friends, but Hyunjin is a bit like Taehyung, not accepting that "being liked" is superficial and people like him will never be liked by others, definitely not similar to the parasocial relation with his / their crazy fans.

yes, at 15 you have no idea, but at 20 you start having more than one idea. He should know, same as Jungkook, that having fan calls, and meetings with underage girls, is a big NO. That touching fans at meetings is a big big NO. FLIRTING with fans at no time should take place. You can be nice and kind to a fan. sexual flirting shouldn't take place.

Hyunjin, Jungkook, Taehyung..at some point...they should have realized that they don't sing properly anymore, they haven't made any progress dancewise, and not start thousands of different things.
If people look for quality in their life, it's easier to spot the evil.
Hyunjin's lives have become a bit cringy, in the same Jungkook style - doing them so that they can be praised and wooed.. they have zero responsibility and also in Hyunjin's case, same as with Jungkook, I believe that their parents are still controlling all their assets/finances.
Who in their right mind, as a MAN, 24 years old, would want to have a gay roommate? talking about "wifey" duty and live in a dorm.
Anwer - no normal person. Only someone with huge deficits.


Everything that you wrote about africans, poor countries, Europe, poverty, handlers, Soros...that's true. It is exactly the current state and who is causing it.
 
This video popped out on my timeline and reminded me that I wanted to say - many of stray kids members are showing big alarms of trouble and danger hidden behind fake "acting cute" theatrics.
This guy has been giving me unpleasant feelings whenever I see something of him - looking at himself in a weird way wearing SM outfits half naked, giving pervert vibes and being drunk at the VMA


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let me explain how the business works in regards to revenue in simple words - the most valuable thing on the market, are copyrights. You receive royalties for text, music, visual media - video, photography.
Usually everyone gives up a part of their copyrights to the label.
Everytime your song is on a show, radio, used for a commercial, background music, etc...everytime your face is used on a product, on a magazine, toys, etc...you get royalties. The amount differs according to the situation - for example, a prime-time show on radio/tv will pay more than a lower viewrs rate show.

The scandals over the beatles catalogue, or recently Taylor Swift's masters is related to the eranings from the copyright.

I would assume that those kpop guys give up all their copyrights, including the nameright to the company, in return for a "salary", which is from what I've understood the standard form of their contracts. Maybe people like Namjoon and Yoongi have received better conditions on their second contract, but the thing is, nobody cares about them. Maybe the "3racha" receive more percentage from the label on their royalties. But...who cares.
in the case of Stray Kids, people are interested in Hyunjin and when he says that he wrote a song, or is credited on one, people will buy like crazy his stuff, because they think, that he wrote it and that they are doing something good for him. But all money goes to the company. I doubt Hyunjin gets any percentage from his royalty.
Of course, we don't know anything about those people's life, but he lives in a dorm, together with a gay dude.. from what we know so far. He should be a multi-millionaire, judging by my estimations of his possible revenue.

So for fans who are attempting in discussing over "music" and "charts" , building their opinions and making finanical purchases thinking, that the money goes to their "idol", they should educate themselves, rather than pushing "ot8" , but almost all the revenue comes from Hyunjin.
 
he's dying his hair to keep this weird fairy image. He always has the perfect bleach, no roots...this is sooo extreme. a guy obsessing over hair dye up to going into baldness....boy.

 
This is a "jews" thread


this is a "cult" themed thread



you can always post there the material you were referring to, and/or create your own thread. I am not the admin/owner of the forum. Everyone is free to do whatever they want.
I encourage people to post and write.

in response to some of the things you wrote:

- I doubt that felix or hyunjin are getting paid more. In fact...I think it is the opposite. I believe the ones being compensated, both in SKZ and BTS, are the ones without the "looks", that realize the real boss money long term comes from providing material for the company in terms of writing and availability.

People like Hyunjin, Felix, Taehyung and now Jungkook are like...christmas. You could eat all year long the specific treats and foods, but it takes the charm away. Which is why they aren't offered in the store all year round. The Christmas example isn't my idea, so ...can't take credit for it, I thought it was a nice thing when I first read about it in a post not related to anything kpop.
The company cannot play this obsessive parasocial madness-card continuously with them. It's not going to work, it is time-limited. They can't allow them to go solo full power, because there is less money and if you've read Hyunjin's interview...though....like every other "interview" with those people, there is a team already providing the answers....he mentioned the same things, in the same way as Jungkook and Taehyung...hinting at solo wishes, keeping the fans alert regarding possible solo album, saying that he has a long list of songs he wrote...
yet they never get the chance to do it. Full power.
The company only has to gain, if they play the "Christmas" card. Every now and then, never too much. For example they published the entire SKZ tour DVD one day after Hyunjin's Cartier commercial came out.
They have people in every group, who are there only because it means an extra cash flow for the company. People who are simply useless for the entire group.

- I blame in the first place the parents. At 15 of course, unless you've been with the "hood" since 10, you don't see evil in anything. As a parent, you don't give away your child and take the cash. Like there is a lottery.
Good for Felix's parents. On the other side - Felix is now old enough to have his own mind, and not play the gender dysphoria agenda. Either way, I noticed that Felix is well spoken, articulated and stands out. With the others, you can see that they haven't been to school and that's a huge problem. They have underdeveloped brains, they don't know what it is to learn for school and run away from work.

Yes, I also had the same impression about Hyunjin being a kind and sensitive person. That's how Jungkook also seemed, until he developed verrry fast into something weird and almost...almost disgusting.
You mentioned that you discovered him when he performed at the world cup. I found out about BTS around 2019 (always forget the timeline) and back then it was just shortly before he started going down.
If you look at older videos, Jungkook left me the same impression as Hyunjin, though there is no comparison between them in terms of dancing.

Doing something is always better than...nothing...Unfortunately what people like Jungkook, Taehyung and Hyunjin don't seem to understand, is that there is no "friendship" between anybody. They should stop lying about their private life and be more concerned about being with a decent person together.
The amount of jealousy that Namjoon tried to hide, towards Taehyung, was annoying. Taehyung lives in his own madness, looking in the crow for people to "love" him. He was obsessing over Namjoon and the more he was wooing him, the worse Namjoon became.

Han, Bangchan, etc...aren't Hyunjin's friends, but Hyunjin is a bit like Taehyung, not accepting that "being liked" is superficial and people like him will never be liked by others, definitely not similar to the parasocial relation with his / their crazy fans.

yes, at 15 you have no idea, but at 20 you start having more than one idea. He should know, same as Jungkook, that having fan calls, and meetings with underage girls, is a big NO. That touching fans at meetings is a big big NO. FLIRTING with fans at no time should take place. You can be nice and kind to a fan. sexual flirting shouldn't take place.

Hyunjin, Jungkook, Taehyung..at some point...they should have realized that they don't sing properly anymore, they haven't made any progress dancewise, and not start thousands of different things.
If people look for quality in their life, it's easier to spot the evil.
Hyunjin's lives have become a bit cringy, in the same Jungkook style - doing them so that they can be praised and wooed.. they have zero responsibility and also in Hyunjin's case, same as with Jungkook, I believe that their parents are still controlling all their assets/finances.
Who in their right mind, as a MAN, 24 years old, would want to have a gay roommate? talking about "wifey" duty and live in a dorm.
Anwer - no normal person. Only someone with huge deficits.


Everything that you wrote about africans, poor countries, Europe, poverty, handlers, Soros...that's true. It is exactly the current state and who is causing it.
Yes, those fan calls and fan meetings are...problematic. They seem so strange to me. And they are wrong when the fans are underage. But I don't think the idols even know who they are going to talk to before the calls. I think that the company (the label) selects them. The fans have to attend certain events or buy albums to then participate in a lottery to get a chance or several chances to get picked for the calls (and sometimes it's just crazy how many albums some fans buy to increase their chances to get picked). But since the company will probably not renounce the revenue streams from the teenagers, they should at least put some rules in place to have a parent be present during the call so that it doesn't get inappropriate or illegal (because some things are getting just plain illegal) if the fan is underage. But then we might have another awkward situation where the parent might behave in an inappropriate way. I read a reddit post about a woman who went to a recent skz concert with her 12 year old daughter, and she introduced herself as being happily married, with kids. But then she mentioned at least twice that she was disappointed Felix didn't show his abs during the concert she and her daughter attended. Maybe she was joking, and maybe she even jokes about it lightly with her husband. But that is so bizarre to me...
 
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Yes, those fan calls and fan meetings are...problematic. They seem so strange to me. And they are wrong when the fans are underage. But I don't think the idols even know who they are going to talk to before the calls. I think that the company (the label) selects them. The fans have to attend certain events or buy albums to then participate in a lottery to get a chance or several chances to get picked for the calls (and sometimes it's just crazy how many albums some fans buy to increase their chances to get picked). But since the company will probably not renounce the revenue streams from the teenagers, they should at least put some rules in place to have a parent be present during the call so that it doesn't get inappropriate or illegal (because some things are getting just plain illegal) during the call is the fan is underage. But then we might have another awkward situation where the parent might behave in an appropriate way. I read a reddit post about a woman who went to a recent skz concert with her 12 year old daughter, and she introduced herself as being happily married, with kids. But then she mentioned at least twice that she was disappointed Felix didn't show his abs during the concert she and her daughter attended. Maybe she was joking, and maybe she even jokes about it lightly with her husband. But that is so bizarre to me...
The parent idea is a good one, but then I had to smile when I got to the part with the parent even acting weird.They want this kind of inappropriate behavior. They want to normalize pedophilia, they encourage the exact type of Hyunjins and Taehyungs and Jungkooks to engage in this type of contact with underage fans.

A mother shouldn't tell this kind of a joke (felix's abs). The phenomena of moms being mentally ill and acting this way, has increased over the years, we see it especially with this gender dysphoria propaganda. I have a boy taking lessons from me and his mother, just because of a bad relationship with her parents and her ex, is taking it out on the child in the way, where the boy looks more feminine and of course, the whole pink clothes and long hair, than the girls I teach.
The issue in Germany is not as present in the public, as in other countries, but I can see that the mother has issues and how it affects the child, who is simply trying to get some attention in the wrong way.
Children go for the shiny pinky stuff, unless you tell them otherwise.
That's a different subject. What I can tell is that the gay propaganda has found a huge success within the music industry- kpop, the billie ellishes, whatever her name is, Halsey, that satanic sick lover, forgot his name, Sam Smith (remembered) and it casts a light as well on the father who allows something like that. What kind of a "man" allows this type of obsession...? I know the answer...


A few years ago I posted a story I believe from the UK, where a mother and her daugther, mother around 40 something, have spent thousands of pounds on BTS merchandise and their house looked like a horror movie, everything BTS themed.
While I was searching for this story, I found another one


This one was sent to me, in the spirit of weird moms with children...


Then we have my number one favorite, taekook-rainbow, a mother making her daughter thinking that she's a boy, because that's what BTS likes...
 
The parent idea is a good one, but then I had to smile when I got to the part with the parent even acting weird.They want this kind of inappropriate behavior. They want to normalize pedophilia, they encourage the exact type of Hyunjins and Taehyungs and Jungkooks to engage in this type of contact with underage fans.

A mother shouldn't tell this kind of a joke (felix's abs). The phenomena of moms being mentally ill and acting this way, has increased over the years, we see it especially with this gender dysphoria propaganda. I have a boy taking lessons from me and his mother, just because of a bad relationship with her parents and her ex, is taking it out on the child in the way, where the boy looks more feminine and of course, the whole pink clothes and long hair, than the girls I teach.
The issue in Germany is not as present in the public, as in other countries, but I can see that the mother has issues and how it affects the child, who is simply trying to get some attention in the wrong way.
Children go for the shiny pinky stuff, unless you tell them otherwise.
That's a different subject. What I can tell is that the gay propaganda has found a huge success within the music industry- kpop, the billie ellishes, whatever her name is, Halsey, that satanic sick lover, forgot his name, Sam Smith (remembered) and it casts a light as well on the father who allows something like that. What kind of a "man" allows this type of obsession...? I know the answer...


A few years ago I posted a story I believe from the UK, where a mother and her daugther, mother around 40 something, have spent thousands of pounds on BTS merchandise and their house looked like a horror movie, everything BTS themed.
While I was searching for this story, I found another one


This one was sent to me, in the spirit of weird moms with children...


Then we have my number one favorite, taekook-rainbow, a mother making her daughter thinking that she's a boy, because that's what BTS likes..
I was actually laughing as I was writing that part because I was imagining the fan call where the mother loses it and asks him to show her his abs, him with his face frozen in shock, and the daughter super embarrassed saying "Mom please stop", with the roles of the daughter and the mother completely reversed.

These kids (the ones you are mentioning in your posts)... one can only feel sorry for abused children, or children who are not being properly taken care of.
That's also why I feel sorry for some of the trainees who start too early and are far away from home. If they go through some abuse or are not been properly taken care of, they're off to a bad start, and yes, they will be responsible for their actions when they're adults, but how much did their messed up childhood or the abuse they went through as teens hurt them, or influence them in their behavior?

The sexualization of the children is for me one of the worst evils out there. That's why I really hope Balenciaga cease to exist. They can apologize all they want. They just went too far.
 
Everything that's wrong with the system and where they are responsible for. There is nothing real in their statement. They are feeding a parasocial crazy inexistent relationship so that those mentally unstable people buy their stuff. It is their face on that statement. Their words.
But then, again, when some of those fans are asking them to wear a headband, they get upset.

Damn if you do, damn if you don't?

p.s. Hyunjin is separate under his thread


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Everything that's wrong with the system and where they are responsible for. There is nothing real in their statement. They are feeding a parasocial crazy inexistent relationship so that those mentally unstable people buy their stuff. It is their face on that statement. Their words.
But then, again, when some of those fans are asking them to wear a headband, they get upset.

Damn if you do, damn if you don't?

p.s. Hyunjin is separate under his thread


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I was checking a few posts on the BTS thread and on other threads, and I have to ask: why do you call so many people hookers or prostitutes? I saw that you do that for many idols like Jungkook, New Jeans, etc. and for the staff. I mean words have meanings and these are strong words, that mean someone who have sex for money. So unless you know for a fact and have proof that all these people do, then it's slander. Which is wrong.
I think that if one claims to want to stand against evil, expose the lies, and call out what's wrong, then one must also be careful not to do something wrong on the way. You wrote it's wrong that BTS members say "I love army" or "army is my girlfriend" and I agree with you on that, the words "love" and "girlfriend" are misused here, (to feed the parasocial relationship); but the words hookers and prostitutes are too strong and also misused here if all these people you call hookers or prostitutes don't sleep with people for money.
For the staff, I agree that they (especially from what I saw for BTS) sometimes touch the idols in very inappropriate ways, and sometimes they touch them for no reason at all with the pretext of fixing something when there is nothing to fix (I'm thinking about a video with Eunwoo that showed that so much, most people called it out in the comments), or dress in a very inappropriate way, or seem desperate for attention, or maybe even got that job to get close to someone they're secretly in love with, but that doesn't make them prostitutes now, does it?
 
I was checking a few posts on the BTS thread and on other threads, and I have to ask: why do you call so many people hookers or prostitutes? I saw that you do that for many idols like Jungkook, New Jeans, etc. and for the staff. I mean words have meanings and these are strong words, that mean someone who have sex for money. So unless you know for a fact and have proof that all these people do, then it's slander. Which is wrong.
I think that if one claims to want to stand against evil, expose the lies, and call out what's wrong, then one must also be careful not to do something wrong on the way. You wrote it's wrong that BTS members say "I love army" or "army is my girlfriend" and I agree with you on that, the words "love" and "girlfriend" are misused here, (to feed the parasocial relationship); but the words hookers and prostitutes are too strong and also misused here if all these people you call hookers or prostitutes don't sleep with people for money.
For the staff, I agree that they (especially from what I saw for BTS) sometimes touch the idols in very inappropriate ways, and sometimes they touch them for no reason at all with the pretext of fixing something when there is nothing to fix (I'm thinking about a video with Eunwoo that showed that so much, most people called it out in the comments), or dress in a very inappropriate way, or seem desperate for attention, or maybe even got that job to get close to someone they're secretly in love with, but that doesn't make them prostitutes now, does it?

First of all, every time someone starts to attack me, for statements I have made, it should be considered how much experience the person has in this business.
Second - there is no proof, there is never proof for anything. That's the way it is. This is why this business works. It works based mostly on sex and a few who are normal.
Third - it is my profession and there are requirements when working with "artists" - for women employed it involves, amongst other things, not flirting with them, avoiding wearing short pants, skirts, low cut, etc..anything that is suggestive. You can't do your job of moving around wearing revealing clothing, because by definition when bowing to the floor, your beasts will reveal a big portion of their looks, if not everything, your genitalia will stick out, and so will your buttock. The staff you see in the videos - their job is physical activity. Someone wearing that short of a skirt has the sole role of sexual arousal and is trading sex as a currency.

As far as the term prostitutes/hookers goes, the girls on sex cams aren't in actual contact with the person paying for the service - it is still prostitution.
It is not a "sexism" question, as to why females don't have the equivalent of half-naked muscular men working for them. For most women, being surrounded by a bunch of guys desperate to get their/our attention, isn't something appealing.
As a staff member in this business, decency and appropriate clothing are an important aspect. Drawing attention to itself, through clothing, or exaggerated laughing (which is also something we can hear in BTS or SKZ videos), is a reason for firing a staffer, because of an inappropriate behavior.
It's the typical - guy leaves his wife for his secretary scenario, where the secretary wears tight clothes, bends over, and flirts with the boss, to give him the sign - let's have sex.

Most of the girls hired are there because they are prostitutes - they trade sex for benefits.

I also have no idea what Bang is really doing, maybe Eunwoo is really innocent and wanted to help every girl he picked up with the car, or maybe Taehyung sticking his tongue to the staffer wearing a shirt and almost rubbing their bodies against each other, was only trying to practice for Cirque du Soleil, was blinded by some light, not seeing who's in front of him and just...got an erection, as we've seen them having in waaaaay too many cases.
You get an erection in the morning as a guy. You don't get an erection at your work place for no reason. On multiple occasions.
Oh, yes...wait a second. Incoming staffer with short skirt and two little braids is going to bend down and pick up my shoes.

In that case, all I do is slander, because yes, I have noooooo idea who they are, or what they do, never been there in their tight little rooms filled with a lot of girls sitting on their lap - except there are many videos were we get a glimpse of it.
All I know is that there has NEVER been a situation, where a female staff member wearing clothes making it impossible to do her job, without exposing her vagina, asshole, and nipples, was there for an other reasons, but because of her willingness to offer sex.
 
First of all, every time someone starts to attack me, for statements I have made, it should be considered how much experience the person has in this business.
Second - there is no proof, there is never proof for anything. That's the way it is. This is why this business works. It works based mostly on sex and a few who are normal.
Third - it is my profession and there are requirements when working with "artists" - for women employed it involves, amongst other things, not flirting with them, avoiding wearing short pants, skirts, low cut, etc..anything that is suggestive. You can't do your job of moving around wearing revealing clothing, because by definition when bowing to the floor, your beasts will reveal a big portion of their looks, if not everything, your genitalia will stick out, and so will your buttock. The staff you see in the videos - their job is physical activity. Someone wearing that short of a skirt has the sole role of sexual arousal and is trading sex as a currency.

As far as the term prostitutes/hookers goes, the girls on sex cams aren't in actual contact with the person paying for the service - it is still prostitution.
It is not a "sexism" question, as to why females don't have the equivalent of half-naked muscular men working for them. For most women, being surrounded by a bunch of guys desperate to get their/our attention, isn't something appealing.
As a staff member in this business, decency and appropriate clothing are an important aspect. Drawing attention to itself, through clothing, or exaggerated laughing (which is also something we can hear in BTS or SKZ videos), is a reason for firing a staffer, because of an inappropriate behavior.
It's the typical - guy leaves his wife for his secretary scenario, where the secretary wears tight clothes, bends over, and flirts with the boss, to give him the sign - let's have sex.

Most of the girls hired are there because they are prostitutes - they trade sex for benefits.

I also have no idea what Bang is really doing, maybe Eunwoo is really innocent and wanted to help every girl he picked up with the car, or maybe Taehyung sticking his tongue to the staffer wearing a shirt and almost rubbing their bodies against each other, was only trying to practice for Cirque du Soleil, was blinded by some light, not seeing who's in front of him and just...got an erection, as we've seen them having in waaaaay too many cases.
You get an erection in the morning as a guy. You don't get an erection at your work place for no reason. On multiple occasions.
Oh, yes...wait a second. Incoming staffer with short skirt and two little braids is going to bend down and pick up my shoes.

In that case, all I do is slander, because yes, I have noooooo idea who they are, or what they do, never been there in their tight little rooms filled with a lot of girls sitting on their lap - except there are many videos were we get a glimpse of it.
All I know is that there has NEVER been a situation, where a female staff member wearing clothes making it impossible to do her job, without exposing her vagina, asshole, and nipples, was there for an other reasons, but because of her willingness to offer sex.
Wow... I don't know why you're feeling attacked. Now it seems like you're using the fact that you have experience in the business and the fact that you write on this forum to get on a moral high horse, and to say that it gives you insights or a super power to detect who is a prostitute and who is not. I mean, if one of these people you call "hooker" decides to sue you for slander (because there are laws against slander, because it is wrong), good luck with your defence with these types of arguments in a court of law. I'm not gonna repeat what I wrote but words do have meanings and there is a difference between inappropriate behavior or promiscuity on the one hand, and prostitution on the other hand. And going from the first one to the second is a big stretch. And it is slander, and there are laws against that. Because it's wrong.
Maybe there are some situations with prostitutes involved, but the fact is you are insulting and slandering A LOT of people because you see a few things on short videos or tweets you see here and there, and then you extrapolate.
 
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